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“I mean, things don’t affect people the way they used to. |
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I mean, it may very well be that 1 0 years from now… |
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people will pay $1 0,000 in cash to be castrated… |
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just in order to be affected by something. |
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Well, why-why do you think that is? I mean, why is that? |
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I mean, is it just because people are lazy today, or they’re bored? |
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I mean, are we just like bored, spoiled children… |
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who’ve just been lying in the bathtub all day… |
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just playing with their plastic duck… |
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and now they’re just thinking, ”Well, what can I do?” |
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Okay. Yes. We’re bored. |
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We’re all bored now. |
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But has it every occurred to you, Wally, that the process… |
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that creates this boredom that we see in the world now… |
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may very well be a self-perpetuating, unconscious form of brainwashing… |
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created by a world totalitarian government based on money… |
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and that all of this is much more dangerous than one thinks… |
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and it’s not just a question of individual survival, Wally… |
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but that somebody who’s bored is asleep… |
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and somebody who’s asleep will not say no? |
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See, I keep meeting these people – I mean, uh,just a few days ago… |
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I met this man whom I greatly admire. |
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He’s a Swedish physicist. Gustav Bjornstrand. |
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And he told me that he no longer watches television… |
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he doesn’t read newspapers, and he doesn’t read magazines. |
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He’s completely cut them out of his life… |
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because he really does feel that we’re living in some kind of Orwellian nightmare now… |
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and that everything that you hear now contributes to turning you into a robot. |
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And when I was at Findhorn, I met this extraordinary English tree expert… |
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who had devoted his life to saving trees. |
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Just got back from Washington, lobbying to save the redwoods. |
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He’s 84 years old, and he always travels with a backpack… |
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’cause he never knows where he’s gonna be tomorrow. |
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And when I met him at Findhorn, he said to me, ”Where are you from?” |
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I said, ”New York.” He said, ”Ah, New York. Yes, that’s a very interesting place. |
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Do you know a lot of New Yorkers who keep talking about the fact that they want to leave, but never do?” |
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And I said, ”Oh, yes.” And he said, ”Why do you think they don’t leave?” |
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I gave him different banal theories. He said, ”Oh, I don’t think it’s that way at all.” |
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He said, ”I think that New York is the new model for the new concentration camp… |
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”where the camp has been built by the inmates themselves… |
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”and the inmates are the guards, and they have this pride in this thing they’ve built. |
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”They’ve built their own prison. |
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”And so they exist in a state of schizophrenia… |
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”where they are both guards and prisoners. |
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”And as a result, they no longer have – having been lobotomized – |
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”the capacity to leave the prison they’ve made… |
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or to even see it as a prison.” |
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And then he went into his pocket, and he took out a seed for a tree… |
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and he said, ”This is a pine tree.” |
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He put it in my hand and he said, ”Escape before it’s too late.” |
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See, actually, for two or three years now… |
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Chiquita and I have had this very unpleasant feeling that we really should get out. |
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We really feel like Jews in Germany in the late ’30s. |
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Get out of here. |
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Of course, the problem is where to go. |
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‘Cause it seems quite obvious that the whole world is going in the same direction. |
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See, I think it’s quite possible that the 1 960s… |
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represented the last burst of the human being before he was extinguished… |
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and that this is the beginning of the rest of the future, now… |
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and that from now on there’ll simply be all these robots walking around… |
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feeling nothing, thinking nothing. |
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And there’ll be nobody left almost to remind them… |
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that there once was a species called a human being… |
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with feelings and thoughts… |
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and that history and memory are right now being erased… |
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and soon nobody will really remember… |
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that life existed on the planet. |
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Now, of course, Bjornstrand feels that there’s really almost no hope… |
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and that we’re probably going back to a very savage… |
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lawless, terrifying period. |
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Findhorn people see it a little differently. |
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They’re feeling that there’ll be these pockets of light… |
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springing up in different parts of the world… |
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and that these will be, in a way, invisible planets on this planet… |
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and that as we, or the world, grow colder… |
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we can take invisible space journeys to these different planets… |
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refuel for what it is we need to do on the planet itself… |
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and come back. |
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And it’s their feeling that there have to be centers now… |
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where people can come and reconstruct a new future for the world. |
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And when I was talking to, uh, Gustav Bjornstrand… |
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he was saying that actually these centers are growing up everywhere now… |
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and that what they’re trying to do, which is what Findhorn was trying to do… |
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and, in a way, what I was trying to do – |
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I mean, these things can’t be given names… |
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but in a way, these are all attempts at creating a new kind of school… |
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or a new kind of monastery. |
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And Bjornstrand talks about the concept of”reserves” – |
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islands of safety where history can be remembered… |
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and the human being can continue to function… |
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in order to maintain the species through a dark age. |
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In other words, we’re talking about an underground… |
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which did exist in a different way during the Dark Ages… |
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among the mystical orders of the church. |
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And the purpose of this underground… |
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is to find out how to preserve the light, life, the culture… |
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how to keep things living. |
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You see, I keep thinking that what we need… |
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is a new language – |
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a language of the heart… |
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a language, as in the Polish forest, where language wasn’t needed. |
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Some kind of language between people that is a new kind of poetry… |
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that’s the poetry of the dancing bee that tells us where the honey is. |
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And I think that in order to create that language… |
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you’re going to have to learn how you can go through a looking glass… |
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into another kind of perception… |
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where you have that sense of being united to all things… |
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and suddenly you understand everything.” |
