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Jiddu Krishnamurti was born on 11 May 1895 in Madanapalle, a small town in south India. He and his brother were adopted in their youth by Dr Annie Besant, then president of the Theosophical Society. Dr Besant and others proclaimed that Krishnamurti was to be a world teacher whose coming the Theosophists had predicted. To prepare the world for this coming, a world-wide organization called the Order of the Star in the East was formed and the young Krishnamurti was made its head. In 1929, however, Krishnamurti renounced the role that he was expected to play, dissolved the Order with its huge following, and returned all the money and property that had been donated for this work. What follows is the speech made by Jiddu Krishnamurti in 1929 when he dissolved the Order of the Star.
“We are going to discuss this morning the dissolution of the Order of the Star. Many will be delighted, and others will be rather sad. It is a question neither for rejoicing nor for sadness, because it is inevitable, as I am going to explain….
I maintain that Truth is a pathless land, and you cannot approach it by any path whatsoever, by any religion, by any sect. That is my point of view, and I adhere to that absolutely and unconditionally. Truth, being limitless, unconditioned, unapproachable by any path whatsoever, cannot be organized; nor should any organization be formed to lead or coerce people along any particular path. If you first understand that, then you will see how impossible it is to organize a belief. A belief is purely an individual matter, and you cannot and must not organize it. If you do, it becomes dead, crystallized; it becomes a creed, a sect, a religion, to be imposed on others. This is what everyone throughout the world is attempting to do. Truth is narrowed down and made a plaything for those who are weak, for those who are only momentarily discontented. Truth cannot be brought down, rather the individual must make the effort to ascend to it. You cannot bring the mountain-top to the valley….
So that is the first reason, from my point of view, why the Order of the Star should be dissolved. In spite of this, you will probably form other Orders, you will continue to belong to other organizations searching for Truth. I do not want to belong to any organization of a spiritual kind; please understand this….
If an organization be created for this purpose, it becomes a crutch, a weakness, a bondage, and must cripple the individual, and prevent him from growing, from establishing his uniqueness, which lies in the discovery for himself of that absolute, unconditioned Truth. So that is another reason why I have decided, as I happen to be the Head of the Order, to dissolve it.
This is no magnificent deed, because I do not want followers, and I mean this. The moment you follow someone you cease to follow Truth. I am not concerned whether you pay attention to what I say or not. I want to do a certain thing in the world and I am going to do it with unwavering concentration. I am concerning myself with only one essential thing: to set man free. I desire to free him from all cages, from all fears, and not to found religions, new sects, nor to establish new theories and new philosophies. Then you will naturally ask me why I go the world over, continually speaking. I will tell you for what reason I do this; not because I desire a following, not because I desire a special group of special disciples. (How men love to be different from their fellow-men, however ridiculous, absurd and trivial their distinctions, may be! I do not want to encourage that absurdity.) I have no disciples, no apostles, either on earth or in the realm of spirituality.
Nor is it the lure of money, nor the desire to live a comfortable life, which attracts me. If I wanted to lead a comfortable life I would not come to a Camp or live in a damp country! I am speaking frankly because I want this settled once and for all. I do not want these childish discussions year after year.
A newspaper reporter, who interviewed me, considered it a magnificent act to dissolve an organization in which there were thousands and thousands of members. To him it was a great act because he said: “What will you do afterwards, how will you live? You will have no following, people will no longer listen to you.” If there are only five people who will listen, who will live, who have their faces turned towards eternity, it will be sufficient. Of what use is it to have thousands who do not understand, who are fully embalmed in prejudice, who do not want the new, but would rather translate the new to suit their own sterile, stagnant selves?….
Because I am free, unconditioned, whole, not the part, not the relative, but the whole Truth that is eternal, I desire those, who seek to understand me, to be free, not to follow me, not to make out of me a cage which will become a religion, a sect. Rather should they be free from all fears – from the fear of religion, from the fear of salvation, from the fear of spirituality, from the fear of love, from the fear of death, from the fear of life itself. As an artist paints a picture because he takes delight in that painting, because it is his self-expression, his glory, his well-being, so I do this and not because I want any thing from anyone. You are accustomed to authority, or to the atmosphere of authority which you think will lead you to spirituality. You think and hope that another can, by his extraordinary powers – a miracle – transport you to this realm of eternal freedom which is Happiness. Your whole outlook on life is based on that authority.
You have listened to me for three years now, without any change taking place except in the few. Now analyze what I am saying, be critical, so that you may understand thoroughly, fundamentally….
For eighteen years you have been preparing for this event, for the Coming of the World Teacher. For eighteen years you have organized, you have looked for someone who would give a new delight to your hearts and minds, who would transform your whole life, who would give you a new understanding; for someone who would raise you to a new plane of life, who would give you new encouragement, who would set you free – and now look what is happening! Consider, reason with yourselves, and discover in what way that belief has made you different – not with the superficial difference of the wearing of a badge, which is trivial, absurd. In what manner has such a belief swept away all unessential things of life? That is the only way to judge: in what way are you freer, greater, more dangerous to every society which is based on the false and the unessential? In what way have the members of this organization of the Star become different?….
You are all depending for your spirituality on someone else, for your happiness on someone else, for your enlightenment on someone else…. when I say look within yourselves for the enlightenment, for the glory, for the purification, and for the incorruptibility of the self, not one of you is willing to do it. There may be a few, but very, very few. So why have an organization?….
No man from outside can make you free; nor can organized worship, nor the immolation of yourselves for a cause, make you free; nor can forming yourselves into an organization, nor throwing yourselves into work, make you free. You use a typewriter to write letters, but you do not put it on an alter and worship it. But that is what you are doing when organizations become your chief concern. “How many members are there in it?” That is the first question I am asked by all newspaper reporters. “How many followers have you? By their number we shall judge whether what you say is true or false.” I do not know how many there are. I am not concerned with that. If there were even one man who had been set free, that were enough….
Again, you have the idea that only certain people hold the key to the Kingdom of Happiness. No one holds it. No one has the authority to hold that key. That key is your own self, and in the development and the purification and in the incorruptibility of that self alone is the Kingdom of Eternity….
You have been accustomed to being told how far you have advanced, what is your spiritual status. How childish! Who but yourself can tell you if you are incorruptible?….
But those who really desire to understand, who are looking to find that which is eternal, without a beginning and without an end, will walk together with greater intensity, will be a danger to everything that is unessential, to unrealities, to shadows. And they will concentrate, they will become the flame, because they understand. Such a body we must create, and that is my purpose. Because of that true friendship – which you do not seem to know – there will be real co-operation on the part of each one. And this not because of authority, not because of salvation, but because you really understand, and hence are capable of living in the eternal. This is a greater thing than all pleasure, than all sacrifice.
So those are some of the reasons why, after careful consideration for two years, I have made this decision. It is not from a momentary impulse. I have not been persuaded to it by anyone – I am not persuaded in such things. For two years I have been thinking about this, slowly, carefully, patiently, and I have now decided to disband the Order, as I happen to be its Head. You can form other organizations and expect someone else. With that I am not concerned, nor with creating new cages, new decorations for those cages. My only concern is to set men absolutely, unconditionally free.”
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MY DINNER WITH ANDRE is a 1981 film starring Andre Gregory and Wallace Shawn, written by Gregory and Shawn, and directed by Louis Malle, depicting a conversation between Gregory and Shawn (not necessarily playing themselves) in a chic restaurant in New York City. Based mostly on conversation, the film’s dialogue covers such things as experimental theatre, the nature of theatre, and the nature of life, contrasting Shawn’s modest, down-to-earth humanism with Gregory’s extravagant spiritual experiences.
TEXT ANNOTATIONS FROM THE SEGMENT OF THE FILM ABOVE:
|“I mean, things don’t affect people the way they used to.|
|I mean, it may very well be that 1 0 years from now…|
|people will pay $1 0,000 in cash to be castrated…|
|just in order to be affected by something.|
|Well, why-why do you think that is? I mean, why is that?|
|I mean, is it just because people are lazy today, or they’re bored?|
|I mean, are we just like bored, spoiled children…|
|who’ve just been lying in the bathtub all day…|
|just playing with their plastic duck…|
|and now they’re just thinking, ”Well, what can I do?”|
|Okay. Yes. We’re bored.|
|We’re all bored now.|
|But has it every occurred to you, Wally, that the process…|
|that creates this boredom that we see in the world now…|
|may very well be a self-perpetuating, unconscious form of brainwashing…|
|created by a world totalitarian government based on money…|
|and that all of this is much more dangerous than one thinks…|
|and it’s not just a question of individual survival, Wally…|
|but that somebody who’s bored is asleep…|
|and somebody who’s asleep will not say no?|
|See, I keep meeting these people – I mean, uh,just a few days ago…|
|I met this man whom I greatly admire.|
|He’s a Swedish physicist. Gustav Bjornstrand.|
|And he told me that he no longer watches television…|
|he doesn’t read newspapers, and he doesn’t read magazines.|
|He’s completely cut them out of his life…|
|because he really does feel that we’re living in some kind of Orwellian nightmare now…|
|and that everything that you hear now contributes to turning you into a robot.|
|And when I was at Findhorn, I met this extraordinary English tree expert…|
|who had devoted his life to saving trees.|
|Just got back from Washington, lobbying to save the redwoods.|
|He’s 84 years old, and he always travels with a backpack…|
|’cause he never knows where he’s gonna be tomorrow.|
|And when I met him at Findhorn, he said to me, ”Where are you from?”|
|I said, ”New York.” He said, ”Ah, New York. Yes, that’s a very interesting place.|
|Do you know a lot of New Yorkers who keep talking about the fact that they want to leave, but never do?”|
|And I said, ”Oh, yes.” And he said, ”Why do you think they don’t leave?”|
|I gave him different banal theories. He said, ”Oh, I don’t think it’s that way at all.”|
|He said, ”I think that New York is the new model for the new concentration camp…|
|”where the camp has been built by the inmates themselves…|
|”and the inmates are the guards, and they have this pride in this thing they’ve built.|
|”They’ve built their own prison.|
|”And so they exist in a state of schizophrenia…|
|”where they are both guards and prisoners.|
|”And as a result, they no longer have – having been lobotomized –|
|”the capacity to leave the prison they’ve made…|
|or to even see it as a prison.”|
|And then he went into his pocket, and he took out a seed for a tree…|
|and he said, ”This is a pine tree.”|
|He put it in my hand and he said, ”Escape before it’s too late.”|
|See, actually, for two or three years now…|
|Chiquita and I have had this very unpleasant feeling that we really should get out.|
|We really feel like Jews in Germany in the late ’30s.|
|Get out of here.|
|Of course, the problem is where to go.|
|‘Cause it seems quite obvious that the whole world is going in the same direction.|
|See, I think it’s quite possible that the 1 960s…|
|represented the last burst of the human being before he was extinguished…|
|and that this is the beginning of the rest of the future, now…|
|and that from now on there’ll simply be all these robots walking around…|
|feeling nothing, thinking nothing.|
|And there’ll be nobody left almost to remind them…|
|that there once was a species called a human being…|
|with feelings and thoughts…|
|and that history and memory are right now being erased…|
|and soon nobody will really remember…|
|that life existed on the planet.|
|Now, of course, Bjornstrand feels that there’s really almost no hope…|
|and that we’re probably going back to a very savage…|
|lawless, terrifying period.|
|Findhorn people see it a little differently.|
|They’re feeling that there’ll be these pockets of light…|
|springing up in different parts of the world…|
|and that these will be, in a way, invisible planets on this planet…|
|and that as we, or the world, grow colder…|
|we can take invisible space journeys to these different planets…|
|refuel for what it is we need to do on the planet itself…|
|and come back.|
|And it’s their feeling that there have to be centers now…|
|where people can come and reconstruct a new future for the world.|
|And when I was talking to, uh, Gustav Bjornstrand…|
|he was saying that actually these centers are growing up everywhere now…|
|and that what they’re trying to do, which is what Findhorn was trying to do…|
|and, in a way, what I was trying to do –|
|I mean, these things can’t be given names…|
|but in a way, these are all attempts at creating a new kind of school…|
|or a new kind of monastery.|
|And Bjornstrand talks about the concept of”reserves” –|
|islands of safety where history can be remembered…|
|and the human being can continue to function…|
|in order to maintain the species through a dark age.|
|In other words, we’re talking about an underground…|
|which did exist in a different way during the Dark Ages…|
|among the mystical orders of the church.|
|And the purpose of this underground…|
|is to find out how to preserve the light, life, the culture…|
|how to keep things living.|
|You see, I keep thinking that what we need…|
|is a new language –|
|a language of the heart…|
|a language, as in the Polish forest, where language wasn’t needed.|
|Some kind of language between people that is a new kind of poetry…|
|that’s the poetry of the dancing bee that tells us where the honey is.|
|And I think that in order to create that language…|
|you’re going to have to learn how you can go through a looking glass…|
|into another kind of perception…|
|where you have that sense of being united to all things…|
|and suddenly you understand everything.”|
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“…all sentient beings are immortal spiritual beings. This includes human beings. For the sake of accuracy and simplicity I will use a made-up word: “IS-BE”. Because the primary nature of an immortal being is that they live in a timeless state of “is”, and the only reason for their existence is that they decide to “be”.
Each IS-BE is told that they have a special purpose for being on Earth. But, of course there is no purpose for being in a prison — at least not for the prisoner.
“The purpose of the prison planet is to keep IS-BEs on Earth, forever. Promoting ignorance, superstition, and war between IS-BEs helps to keep the prison population crippled and trapped behind “the wall” of electronic force screens.
Imagine what might happen if all of the inmates in the prison suddenly remembered that they have the right to be free! What if they suddenly realized that they have been falsely imprisoned and rise up as one against the guards?
The prison is made of shadows in your mind. The shadows are made of lies, and pain, and loss, and fear.
The true geniuses of civilization are those IS-BEs who will enable other IS-BEs to recover their memory and regain self-realization and self-determination. This issue is not solved through enforcing moral regulation on behavior, or through the control of beings through mystery, faith, drugs, guns or any other dogma of a slave society. And certainly not through the use of electric shock and hypnotic commands!
The survival of Earth and every being on it depends on the ability to recover the memory of skills you have accrued through the trillenia; to recover the essence of yourself.”
— Excerpts from statements made by the crashed UFO pilot in Roswell, 1947
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